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Posted On: 31 Jan, 2012 at 09:45 PM holliebaby holliebaby
30 Dec, 2010
Posts: 82

Sorry to be a burden, but I thought if I threw this out there some of you would have some good thoughts for me. Please don't scold me, I have had enough of that already. One thing I have learned reading the forums the last few days is that we all have different things that we value.

When I was new at this, I was always planning new pics and posting new sets, and it was mostly fun. I realy enjoyed it. I loved the comments and the messages and posts back and forth with the guys and gals. I am really into sports and at first the scores even intrigued me. I am competitive! Then, I became old news (and old!) and things slowed up. I learned the scores aren't always what they appear, a large number of guys love the fake pro models or stolen pics more than they love the real ones, and other such posting realities. Also, my comments declined a bunch, although some of you have always been there for me every post, and I love you for it. I also got sick last year and other things that weren't good happened, which is life at times. Bottom line is I quit feeling very sexy.

I tried to just quit. Here is my problem. I miss the good parts, but I don't know how to deal with the parts that I can't control. I miss taking pics and my comments, even if there aren't as many as there used to be. I don't do badly for being just an average middle age gal, but I don't do great. One thing I thought I did well was facials, then I found out my gal pals and even old Pink think I am groaty because I like doing them. Dang!! Something I thought I was good at too!! I miss being on the front page, I miss being an All Star, and all those other things. But I want to get over it, I just don't know how.

I wanted to post in the BJ contest but then I decided not to because of some of the things I just mentioned. See, I am conflicted. I'm not used to this. I am very decisive and not emotional at all at my job.

Sorry to write such a long boring essay, but I was recently attacked by some members and even a few former friends who gave me a hard time when I posted because new pics because I said I was going to retire from it and I didn't. I felt really bad about that, so I decided to write this so some of you would know my thoughts and conflicts, and just to help myself think it through.

I think you forum guys and gals are great.

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 12:06 AM holliebaby holliebaby
30 Dec, 2010
Posts: 82

Marie, what I love about you is you say what you think and you're still my friend. Thank you for taking the time out to write your thoughts. I value your insight so much! And you make a lot of great points, like always. I admit I was sad when I read about you and Browneyes maybe not posting anymore. That is one of the things that made me think a lot about this post. I think it's good to take account of where you are along the road sometimes to make sure you are still on the right road. I, of course, am selfish and always want you to post!

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 12:07 AM browneyes16 browneyes16
22 May, 2010
Posts: 610

You know what hollie, I find it absolutely amazing that the majority of men come here only to look at the PICS, yet they can't take 2 minutes to write a comment for the woman they are looking at. When you look at some of the more popular posts the number of viewers is 400,000+, yet the number of comments average about 100 or so. And let's not forget those that cam, they are lucky if 1 or 2 people leave them a profile comment. Everyone wants to look but tooooo many can't be bothered to thank those that are putting themselves out there, both male & female.

There are quite a few of us who try to mix things up & make our posts fun. Deciding what to wear, or not wear, trying like hell to get the right shots & trying to give those that do comment what they want to see. I sit here & laugh when I see the same guys going crazy over the young "models" posts. Really guys, you can't tell that they are the SAME pics recycled for the next post.

On the other hand, there is a great group of guys who actually prefer us "real" amateurs & appreciate what we go thru to get our pics taken. Unfortunately, if all we focus on are the numbers, we are setting ourselves up for failure. Many of the guys who leave comments, don't even vote. They have given up on a system that many here consider to be very flawed.

When you look at a post of a young "model" who barely shows a tit & yet scores upwards of 9 & then look at a post of someone who has ALL out there for the world to see & barely scores a 6 or 7, you might as well give up. As you said hollie, there are things WE cannot control, & the biggest thing is the scoring!

I know it is hard for some people, both male & female, to get past the scoring & the occassional nasty comments. BUT, if you can't post just because it is something you enjoy, then I say don't do it. We all have enough stress in our "real" lives without adding to it by comparing ourselves to what gets posted here. And REALLY, can we all be assured that these pics aren't photoshopped??? NO WE CAN'T.

I have to say it really pisses me off when I see people put themselves down in their own posts. I'm tired of seeing comments like "I know I'm too old or too fat", "I know I can't compete with the young girls but...", "I know my cock is small", etc.

Again, post because YOU ENJOY IT!!!! Post what YOU want to post. There are always going to be people who don't like something they see. But, you know what, WHO CARES!!!! And if they have to prove that they are a jackass by leaving a nasty comment, IGNORE IT!!! Does it make one less SEXY because some loser hiding behind his keyboard says he didn't like what you posted? NO IT DOESN'T!!!

Being SEXY isn't about one's hair color, age, body type, tit size, cock size or being shaved or natural. It's not about how many comments or views our posts get. It CERTAINLY isn't about the score! It's all about CONFIDENCE & ATTITUDE!!!
It's about having FUN!!! If you let all the other crap take over the equation, the FUN gets trampled, BIG TIME!!!

Tooooooo many people have stopped posting & camming because of the scoring, contests & comments. WHY let others spoil our fun?????

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 12:24 AM browneyes16 browneyes16
22 May, 2010
Posts: 610

OMG marie, I got the same response from people. Many think I stopped because of the contests. But, like you, I could care less about them. I know I am very outspoken about things on here, but everything I comment on as far as the contests, posts, all stars & the homepage are general about the site. They have nothing to do with me personally. A lot of it is based on what I read or talk about with other people.

Like the two of you, I enjoy taking the pics. However, after getting hurt trying to take another set, I decided to stop for a while. Most of you just don't understand how hard it is for those of us who take our own pictures to get the perfect picture. I don't like anything identifiable in my pics, so it makes it very hard when I can't see what is in frame. It makes it very time consuming. It wasn't fun anymore, so I decided to stop for a while.

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 03:30 AM funstuff funstuff
2 Dec, 2009
Posts: 834

Maybe they should do away with the voting (or let it count for like a third of the total score) and get some judges like at regular contest. Also make some criteria for the judging, ya know?

hi everyone :)

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 01:32 PM starcar starcar
21 Mar, 2009
Posts: 94

Hollie babe, who gives a flying fuck about what people think. You'll never please everyone, might as well please yourself. You should be posting because YOU enjoy it, not worrying if a handful of people might not like the subject matter. If you enjoy a face full of spluge, then go for it. For every one person that dislikes it, there will probably be two that are into it. Ignore the negatives and focus on the positives. Ole hangin and my views are so in line its scary, a long lost Brother perhaps? I prefer the older ladies, first section I hit is the MILF, hoping to see some well seasoned skin and beautiful older women. The 20 somethings do nothing for me anymore, maybe because I have kids in that age group and feel guilty? Don't know, but I do know I have always, and still do, enjoy your posts. You are a very attactive and sexy woman with NOTHING to be ashamed of. If it feels good, do it. Just don't let it become a burden to you. If the joy is gone, its time to quit. If that happens you will be greatly missed by me and I'm sure alot others.

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 01:33 PM pinklicker pinklicker
13 Jun, 2009
Posts: 232

Hollie I think the bottom line is......This is suppose to be fun. If you enjoy posting pics then do it. I wouldn't let all those other things spoil that for you. Some of us always think it's a treat when you do post.

As far as the facial thing. I have absolutely no problem that it's something your into...In fact it's hot on your contributions. It's just not something that I normally do.

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 02:43 PM holliebaby holliebaby
30 Dec, 2010
Posts: 82

As I looked at the responses to my question this morning, I realize what keeps drawing me back to PV is you guys. It is no secret I have posted on other sites. Some of you find me there and you have no idea how great that makes me feel when one of my special PV friends comments on me no matter where I am at. But this always feels like home. Thats why when I did my shoot with Sassy last year we agreed that I would post some of them here and she would post some of them elswwhere. We did that shoot and we were so excited to give that to the two sites that meant the most to us, then PV wouldn't let me post her on here because of things between them I had nothing to do with, even though I had her written permission to do so, so I was completely out of luck and the owner of the other site got jealous and posted her own G/G pics the same weeks (we got twice as many comments!). We had hundreds of comments there, they kept deleting them, and we never even made the top 20 even though it seems like everywhere I am at on the net people have seen those. I admit that episode really bummed me out about all of this, along the things I talked about. The people who own these sites sometimes don't seem to understand good business, and as a businesswoman I guess I don't get that.

You guys are right, I should post if it's fun to post. If its not fun I shouldn't. Right now it seems like its not as much fun because of the things I can't control, so maybe I have my answer. I still think I'll post in that BJ contest though, I am pretty good at those!! And yes, there will be facials, especially if I know you all still like me in the morning!!! (And Ed, if you are reading this, you know I still love you so don't ban me!! But I still think you blew it big time not posting my Sassy pics here. Now I promise I will never speak of them again!!!).

Thanks guys, you are the best!!
Love, Hollie

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 10:15 PM lynnandbob lynnandbob
11 Sep, 2009
Posts: 195

Hi Y'all!!! Sorry I'm late to the Forum BUTT it took me quite awhile to shake Two Cents out of My Piggy Bank the Safe Keeper of my Pom Pom Fund. By-the-By Did Y'all see the picture of the Python in Florida that Ate the Deer??? I'm goin Back to Just Grabbin Hold of Rattlers. They Have Nasty Bites BUTT at least they don't Swallow You Whole.

Truth be told G/F's I could cut & paste each of your comments and echo them as mine for I too have found my time here at PV to be a real Roller Coaster RIDE BUTT then if we think 'bout it Sooo is LIFE. Y'all know I first posted here at PV on a dare from Bob. I mean who would take time from gawkin at the 'Young Fillies' to even notice Lil Ole IBT Me??? Well, many did and I received lotsa encouragement from what I call My "Gentleman Callers" and Many Girl Friends Toooo! Scores go UP & Scores go DOWN. Posts I thought would be a big hit were a total BUST (Wishful Thinkin a BUST on Lynn) and a hastily thrown togeather post to make a specific target date made honorable mention. Go Figure!! Heck my Black/Red Panties posts for UKKenny are perfect examples. Top Scores on HC Side BUTT 2.5 points lower on Free MILF side. Yes, I too git some wierd comments, as well as,some NOT so nice and some a bit Harsh BUTT I say it's the way of the world on the internet sooo let it go.I do git a good chuckle 'bout the Smooth,Trimmed or Hairy comments on the seasonal status of Puss!! Classic can't win for losin sooo it's best to Just please yourself.

Since I've been a Naturalist most of my life I'm quite use to bein Nekid 'round Nekid men & women of all ages. Now all Clubs have rules 'bout Males bein openly & visibly stimulated and that's the way it is til a 'Young Fillie' makes an appearance. Then unless they are comatose there is More WOOD than a Woodchuck can Chuck and their all reachin for their towels to cover UP their Erections. So real life or Here at PV they all have flights of Fantasy and can't control what is just really a Natural Reaction.

Now strange as it may seem, Hoss & I are on at least our third circle of Good PV Friends. So many friends from our first days have moved on or just faded into the background. The reasons vary BUTT a lot of times it's over the votin, bad comments or just plain I'm burned out reasons so many of you have stated. Even I've slowed down on postin. Like Browneyes says "It's Hard to do a photo Shoot Alone" and with Hoss out-of-town so much and other new family commitments it's hard for me to git any Quanity of pics let alone any Quality pics to post.

Well I think I've spent my Two Cents. So I'm off to the "Funny Shit" Section in need of a Good Laugh or TWO. XO Lynn32A

Posted On: 1 Feb, 2012 at 11:15 PM browneyes16 browneyes16
22 May, 2010
Posts: 610

I just have to say, I find it hysterical with this being an "adult voyeur" site, that the young "models" some of whom barely show a tit are scoring high 8's to mid 9's while those who have entered the "bj4bucks" contest are only scoring low to high 7's. The exception being, the one video that scored a 9, but I'm not including that since it didn't meet the requirements for the contest.

Go figure! Like I have said before, give them pussy they want ass, give them ass they want tit. They are NEVER satisfied. One would go crazy trying to figure out what to post to get that high score. Like others have said, you look at some posts & think WOW that's hot! But then you look at the score & say WTF???